Ron Paul supporters may pack local GOP conventions

For all the talk of tomorrow's Democratic senate district conventions, where Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton supporters are jockeying for a win, the Republican district conventions may get some drama as well.

Local Republicans are bracing for the possibility that Ron Paul supporters may pack the local GOP events (like they did in Missiouri and Alaska) and try to overthrow the party.

Stuart Lane, a local conservative leader and the temporary chair for the Senate District 10 Republican convention, issued a rally cry to Republicans warning them about the efforts by Paul supporters.

We have had a large number of Ron Paul campaign organizers become involved in this year’s convention process. On their blogs, some are hoping to send enough of their own members to the state convention to:

1. Change the state rules to allow the Texas national delegates to vote for someone other than the winner of the Texas Republican Primary, which would disenfranchise over a million primary voters.
2.       Elect national delegates who will vote contrary to how Texas voted.
Many of this year’s new participants have been told that delegates to the national convention are not bound by the results of the popular vote. This is not true. The rules in effect in Texas at the time of the March 4 primary clearly state that our national delegates are required to vote as the voters did. Texas voters went to the polls on March 4 believing that their votes counted. Changing the rules after the election would disenfranchise those voters. This is the kind of activity we expect to see in the Democrat party.

Paul supporters are excited about Saturday's prospects.

"Most Ron Paul supporters knew that they were supporting something greater than the man, and the convention process provides the mechanism for change within the party," said Ryan Cain with the Texas chapter of Students for Ron Paul Texas Chapter. "I can't give any specific numbers, but the outcome will be interesting."

But local GOP officials, including Tarrant County Republican Chair Stephanie Klick, has some bad news for the Paul supporters. The Texas GOP bylaws won't let them change how this primary is run, only future primaries. Translation: No way Paul will be able to take away any delegates from McCain.

"Democrats are about changing the rules when they don't like the outcome," Klick said.

(Commenters on this blog post are making several cases for why Paul should be the rightful winner in Texas including that the media never gave the Texas congressman the attention he deserved and that the electronic voting machines many Republican voted on may have been hacked to ensure that the votes of Paul's supporters weren't properly counted.)

-Aman Batheja and Mike Lee

Comments

[momto9]

I don't understand the problem. Our country is a republic because the founding fathers knew that a true democracy would fail. The people are absolutely NOT educated about whom to vote for. As a republic, the people elect delegates to represent them. Well, if the people in my precinct actually cared enough to come to our precinct convention, then maybe they could have voted against me becoming a delegate. And they could have represented themselves. As it is, I was the ONLY person to go to my precinct convention, thus, I believe the people of my precinct elected me by default. I cared. I went. I will go tomorrow because I care. I want a true conservative government. What we have now is not conservative, not at all. If the GOP is full of RP supporters, then the GOP is now the party of those people. We are not overthrowing anybody, we are stepping up for ourselves and making our own voices heard. We are taking action rather than letting someone else represent us, because lately the GOP has NOT represented us in a conservative manner. Thanks for reading.

[Ryan Cain]

Status quo Republicans have made it evident they want nothing to do with a grand revival for the Grand Old Party.

Here we have a large block of activists within the Republican Party that are willing to dedicate a good portion of their time to promoting the values of true conservatism and the Constitution. At a time when the GOP needs more people than ever, these activists are completely and utterly shunned!

How typical of the current party to make anything with which they disagree a partisan issue. Ms. Klick fails to realize that our country was founded upon and operates by compromise. The '08 Presidential election has been all about the Democrats -- and no wonder, what with the attitudes of GOP loyalists like Stephanie Klick.

[Ronald L. Weston, Arlington]

I am glad to see that at lewast momto9 recognizes the fact that this nation is constitutionally meant to be a Republic, not the democracy that our elected and appointed have transformed us into by virtue of the fact most Americans have been brainwashed into thinking a democracy is great. It is not, as it reeks of injustice and theft of property and rights.

The best comparison I have seen comes from a training manual the military put together and authored by the most knowledgeable experts on government. It is TM 2000-25 regarding Citizenship to enable the training of personnel drawn from those that had immigrated to this nation and knew little of the Republican form of government. In that manual the difference between a Democracy and a Republic was stated as follows:

Democracy:
.A government of the masses.
Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of
"direct " expression.
Results in mobocracy.
Attitude toward property is communistic-negating property
rights.
Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate,
whether it be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, preju-
dice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences..
Results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.

Republic:
Authority is derived through the election by the people of public
officials best fitted to represent them.
Attitude toward property is respect for laws and individual rights,
and a sensible economic procedure.
Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with
fixed principles and established evidence, with a strict regard to
consequences.
A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be
brought within its compass.
Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or: mobocracy.
Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and
progress.

In 1935, the same year that the Social Security Act was signed into law (August 14, 1935) President Franklin Delano Roosevelt ordered that all copies of training manual TM 2000-25 be destroyed. It is then that the government began to set out to deceive the American people. As time went on the theft of the government was intensified in World War II via the Liberty Tax. Since that time through a constant stream of propaganda and lies the burden of theft on the American people has grown heavier and heavier, as Thomas Jefferson had foretold.

Governor Alfred E. Smith, a lifetime democrat on January 25, 1936 made a speech at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington, DC, before an American Liberty League audience of 2000 and a national radio audience.
This is one of the greatest American political speeches. At the time it was considered the definitive analysis of the New Deal. Al Smith was the 1928 Democrat Presidential nominee, former governor of New York State and the leader of the Democrat Party until Roosevelt and the Communist wing took over in 1932. Smith was the person who gave Roosevelt his second chance in politics and therefore was responsible for FDR becoming President.

An excerpt from that speech tells what he thought of FDR’s platform: LET'S see how it was carried out. Make a test for yourselves. Just get the platform of the Democratic Party, and get the platform of the Socialist Party, and lay them down on your dining room table, side by side, and get a heavy lead pencil and scratch out the word 'Democrat', and scratch out the word 'Socialist,' and let the two platforms lay there.

Then study the record of the present administration up to date. After you have done that, make your mind up to pick up the platform that more nearly squares with the record, and you will put your hand on the Socialist platform. You couldn't touch the Democratic. And, incidentally, let me say that is not the first time in recorded history that a group of men have stolen the livery of the church to do the work of the devil.

Samuel B. Pettengill, Democratic Congressman from Indiana, 1930-1938, was another vocal critic of the New Deal and published a detailed attack on its economic policies and "planning" in 1940. He was clear about the parallels with mercantilism and fascist corporatism, writing "the second or third New Deal is fundamentally fascist." All such systems of central economic egimentation--fascist, Nazi, Soviet--were antithetical to the American form of government. He noted the Nazi regime’s insistence on breaking down the constituent states of the German Reich and compared this to centralizing trends at home. He wrote: "that we are moving toward some form of National Socialism and away from our form of government seems hard not to believe."In 1944, he warned that communism wanted America to spend itself into bankruptcy and was striving in every way to get Americans to become very dependent on a centralized government. He gave to his fellow members of the House of Representatives the 12 points of the Socialist Manifesto for the economic destruction of free governments.

In an address given in October 1949, Pettengill denounced the New Deal-Fair Deal program, now using the term "socialism" to describe it. His central theme was the twin evils of high taxation and monetary inflation, which would render people dependent. Inflation was also an engine for eroding genuine federalism: "The federal government has a printing press; the states do not. This easy money route promotes the extension of federal power and subtracts from state and local self-government."

In order to prepare a nation for socialism or communism he said that the 12 points of the Communist Manifesto must be implemented. These 12 points are covered in the chapter "Socialist (Communist) Manifesto" of "America's Path to Socialism". Since these points require funding that publication, in the remaining chapters concentrates on the government theft to effect our conversion to socialism.

It again shows the wisdom of Thomas Jefferson who stated:
“Our rulers will become corrupt, our people careless... the time for fixing every essential right on a legal basis is [now] while our rulers are honest, and ourselves united. From the conclusion of this war we shall be going downhill. It will not then be necessary to resort every moment to the people for support. They will be forgotten, therefore, and their rights disregarded. They will forget themselves, but in the sole faculty of making money, and will never think of uniting to effect a due respect for their rights. The shackles, therefore, which shall not be knocked off at the conclusion of this war, will remain on us long, will be made heavier and heavier, till our rights shall revive or expire in a convulsion.” - Thomas Jefferson in “Notes on the State of Virginia”, Query 17, p. 161, 1784.

The documents mentioned above are available free at the following . Get them and untwist your brain, otherwise be prepared in the future to render the Sieg Heil salute to all thoswe you elect. They do not represent you, they represent socialism:

http://www.ronarl.wsnw.net/US_Files.html

[Connie]

Now the GOP yells "disenfranchisement of the voters". I've read the rules and yes, delegates have a right to fight the state rules whether they have to vote for a candidate or not. If this "disenfranchisement" argument were correct, Abraham Lincoln would never have been president.

[jmb]

We have had some success in Washington state in getting Ron Paul delegates to the state convention

[Tom]

Rule No. 39 of the TX GOP State Rules covers the pledging of Presidential Electors requiring the Elector to file an affidavit pledging to vote for the candidate selected by the voters in the State Primary.

[paul Tasin]

Victoria County, Texas

We Did it! We took over the county convention and are sending only Ron Paul delegates to the State Convention. The Revolution is growing!

[James]

Rule No. 39 lf the TX GOP seems pretty solid. Oh, that is unless the Ron Paul supporters make up 50% +1 of the delegates at the state convention. If that happens they can simply vote Rule No. 39 out of existence and make a motion that all delegates be allowed to vote their concience.

This should be pretty interesting when all of the state conventions roll around.

At the very least, the MSM will have to acknowledge what is going on in the country.

[Will]

The Ron Paul kooks talk about the constitution yet they want to ignore the will of the people. Paul received less than 5% of the vote. His politics were completely rejected. This is more like an act of tyranny than an act of liberty.